Hello,

I need some help translating the second entry on this page :

http://data.matricula-online.eu/de/oeste...h/02-10/?pg=155

Where are they from? What else does it say about them?

Thank you in advance

Johann Georg Niedermayr was a servant. For he was widdowed you have to find his first marriage for more informations.
Maria Anna Schröger was the daughter of Jakob and Catharina Schröger, both late, from Melk, now Diocese of St. Pölten.

Robert.

Zitat von RobertD im Beitrag #2

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Johann Georg Niedermayr was a servant. For he was widdowed you have to find his first marriage for more informations.
Maria Anna Schröger was the daughter of Jakob and Catharina Schröger, both late, from Melk, now Diocese of St. Pölten.

Robert.

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To confirm it you should try to find the death of his first wife, usually not long before the second marriage.

Does anybody know what a "Fisierschneider" was? or what do you read??

Robert.

I read also Fisierschneider,
perhaps a tailor of the fine art?

http://woerterbuchnetz.de/cgi-bin/WBNetz...F04822#XGF04822

walter

Perhaps the correct word would be "Visierschneider", they were Producers of veils, caps, hoods, masks etc.

"Visierschneider" was a Profession at that time, only to be found in larger cities. They manufactured their goods also for People who survived black Pox to hide their Pockmarks.
But this is just mere speculation of Miss Marple

It is probably not the same Johann then, because you don't go from working like a Visierschneider to becoming a servant? Right?

As far as I understand, Johann was not a simple "servant" but "laquai" which was (is) a liveried attendant or valet in an Upperclass Household.
He might have changed to this servant-job later or - he is not the same Johann, sorry.
Miss Marple

It might be solved by the death entry of the first wife of the "Laquai". I did not find any Niedermayr-death-entry in St. Ulrich yet, i was looking from October back to January 1712.

Robert.

Do did I and was non successful as well. But I found marriage of Johann (Hans) Georg Nidermayr some years before (May 1708)
http://data.matricula-online.eu/de/oeste...en/02-19/?pg=24
as his Profession at this time was "Groom" at a Counts Court and therefore Kind of a "Laquai" he could fit into the puzzle:

Der ehrbare Junggesell Hans Georg Nidermayer ein Reitknecht gebürtig zu Sternberg in Oberösterreich, bei Ihrer Excellenz Graf Max von Breiner in Diensten, nimbt zu der Ehe die tugendsame Jungfrau Maria Magdalena Hackner gebürtig zu Medling, wohnhaft auf dem Spittlberg weiland Johann Hackners und Sabina seiner Ehewirtin beide selig hinterlassene eheleibliche Tochter
The honourable unmarried Hans Georg Nidermayer a groom born at Sternberg in Upper Austria, in service at His Excellency Count Max von Breiner, takes as his wife the virtuous virgin Maria Magdalena Hackner born at Medling (could be Meidling or Mödling as well), resident at the Spittelberg (in Vienna) dauther of late Johann Hackner and Sabina.
regards Miss Marple

And here is the death of Maria in 1711: http://data.matricula-online.eu/de/oeste...n/03-02/?pg=451
and of their daughter Maria: http://data.matricula-online.eu/de/oeste...n/03-02/?pg=485

Robert.

And the birth of Anna Maria Francisca in 1711: http://data.matricula-online.eu/de/oeste...n/01-24/?pg=185 where the mother ist named "Maria Magd."

Robert.

""And the birth of Anna Maria Francisca in 1711: http://data.matricula-online.eu/de/oeste...n/01-24/?pg=185 where the mother ist named "Maria Magd."

Robert.""

Who is her mother? Schröger or Hackner? It is very confusing

Maria Magdalena Hackner, she died about one week after giving birth to this daughter, who died some months later.

Robert.